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		<title>By: International Bridges to Justice &#171; Justice for all</title>
		<link>http://akhilak.com/blog/2009/02/02/democracy-for-all/#comment-24</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 3, 2009   In my previous post, I emphasized the need for a focus on rule of law and human rights, rather than simply [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Akhila</title>
		<link>http://akhilak.com/blog/2009/02/02/democracy-for-all/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Akhila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 01:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendan, yeah you are definitely right. The idea of the West imposing its ideologies and power into the rest of the world has been around forever, practically. However, I think recently this assertion of Western power has been channeled into something thought of as more &quot;appropriate&quot; - the quest for democracy, and the &quot;war&quot; against terror, dictatorships, and the like. But in the end when it boils down to it, I see even this as an attempt to gain power over the rest...through ideology. I think in the future, the West has to stop asserting its ideals &lt;b&gt;completely&lt;/b&gt; over the rest of the world.

I haven&#039;t read that treaty but it&#039;s a very interesting and relevant point! It&#039;s true that the British colonial rule has created the foundations for democracy, but only in the areas they inhabited for long enough to put in a basic infrastructure and try to enforce the rule of law. It&#039;s definitely fascinating to see that even colonial rule...perhaps even had positive effects. Who knows if those countries would have democratized otherwise?

Thanks again for thought provoking comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendan, yeah you are definitely right. The idea of the West imposing its ideologies and power into the rest of the world has been around forever, practically. However, I think recently this assertion of Western power has been channeled into something thought of as more &#8220;appropriate&#8221; &#8211; the quest for democracy, and the &#8220;war&#8221; against terror, dictatorships, and the like. But in the end when it boils down to it, I see even this as an attempt to gain power over the rest&#8230;through ideology. I think in the future, the West has to stop asserting its ideals <b>completely</b> over the rest of the world.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read that treaty but it&#8217;s a very interesting and relevant point! It&#8217;s true that the British colonial rule has created the foundations for democracy, but only in the areas they inhabited for long enough to put in a basic infrastructure and try to enforce the rule of law. It&#8217;s definitely fascinating to see that even colonial rule&#8230;perhaps even had positive effects. Who knows if those countries would have democratized otherwise?</p>
<p>Thanks again for thought provoking comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Akhila</title>
		<link>http://akhilak.com/blog/2009/02/02/democracy-for-all/#comment-2819</link>
		<dc:creator>Akhila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 01:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendan, yeah you are definitely right. The idea of the West imposing its ideologies and power into the rest of the world has been around forever, practically. However, I think recently this assertion of Western power has been channeled into something thought of as more &quot;appropriate&quot; - the quest for democracy, and the &quot;war&quot; against terror, dictatorships, and the like. But in the end when it boils down to it, I see even this as an attempt to gain power over the rest...through ideology. I think in the future, the West has to stop asserting its ideals &lt;b&gt;completely&lt;/b&gt; over the rest of the world.

I haven&#039;t read that treaty but it&#039;s a very interesting and relevant point! It&#039;s true that the British colonial rule has created the foundations for democracy, but only in the areas they inhabited for long enough to put in a basic infrastructure and try to enforce the rule of law. It&#039;s definitely fascinating to see that even colonial rule...perhaps even had positive effects. Who knows if those countries would have democratized otherwise?

Thanks again for thought provoking comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendan, yeah you are definitely right. The idea of the West imposing its ideologies and power into the rest of the world has been around forever, practically. However, I think recently this assertion of Western power has been channeled into something thought of as more &#8220;appropriate&#8221; &#8211; the quest for democracy, and the &#8220;war&#8221; against terror, dictatorships, and the like. But in the end when it boils down to it, I see even this as an attempt to gain power over the rest&#8230;through ideology. I think in the future, the West has to stop asserting its ideals <b>completely</b> over the rest of the world.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read that treaty but it&#8217;s a very interesting and relevant point! It&#8217;s true that the British colonial rule has created the foundations for democracy, but only in the areas they inhabited for long enough to put in a basic infrastructure and try to enforce the rule of law. It&#8217;s definitely fascinating to see that even colonial rule&#8230;perhaps even had positive effects. Who knows if those countries would have democratized otherwise?</p>
<p>Thanks again for thought provoking comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://akhilak.com/blog/2009/02/02/democracy-for-all/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 00:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the West as we see it has been exporting its ideals and powers onto other countries for centuries though - it&#039;s not a new idea. Think of the Portugeuse in South America, various European nations in Africa (how many countries at some point controlled the Congo?), and most notably, the British Empire. It&#039;s strange that any Commonwealth countries have kept the notion of democracy and built upon it in their own way. It&#039;s verging on the colonial rule and a country extending their empire again though with Afghanistan and Iraq. I don&#039;t like the idea of going into another country and telling them their customs are wrong.

It&#039;s also interesting to think what is lost when a country agrees to &#039;colonial&#039; (for want of a better word) rule: I&#039;m not sure if you&#039;ve read about the Treaty of Waitangi (in 1840), but it involved NZ Maoris agreeing to terms drafted up by the British Empire. The problem was the various terms in English had no equivalent meaning in Maori so they didn&#039;t realise they were signing their land over. Not directly relevant, but I think the historical idea of rule and regime is interesting, and I think that the British Empire created the basis for many of the democracies around the world today.

That&#039;s okay! I like to read your posts. Politics doesn&#039;t normally interest me, but I like your blogs. I can&#039;t say I&#039;ll always have an opinion to put forward though, as some of it is beyond my knowledge. And yes, feel free to ask me about books! Though I don&#039;t know what you like, so suggest some things and I&#039;ll try to think of similar books. I tend to stick with pulp fiction really since university demands fairly heavy reading as it is.

Keep writing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the West as we see it has been exporting its ideals and powers onto other countries for centuries though &#8211; it&#8217;s not a new idea. Think of the Portugeuse in South America, various European nations in Africa (how many countries at some point controlled the Congo?), and most notably, the British Empire. It&#8217;s strange that any Commonwealth countries have kept the notion of democracy and built upon it in their own way. It&#8217;s verging on the colonial rule and a country extending their empire again though with Afghanistan and Iraq. I don&#8217;t like the idea of going into another country and telling them their customs are wrong.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also interesting to think what is lost when a country agrees to &#8216;colonial&#8217; (for want of a better word) rule: I&#8217;m not sure if you&#8217;ve read about the Treaty of Waitangi (in 1840), but it involved NZ Maoris agreeing to terms drafted up by the British Empire. The problem was the various terms in English had no equivalent meaning in Maori so they didn&#8217;t realise they were signing their land over. Not directly relevant, but I think the historical idea of rule and regime is interesting, and I think that the British Empire created the basis for many of the democracies around the world today.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s okay! I like to read your posts. Politics doesn&#8217;t normally interest me, but I like your blogs. I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ll always have an opinion to put forward though, as some of it is beyond my knowledge. And yes, feel free to ask me about books! Though I don&#8217;t know what you like, so suggest some things and I&#8217;ll try to think of similar books. I tend to stick with pulp fiction really since university demands fairly heavy reading as it is.</p>
<p>Keep writing!</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://akhilak.com/blog/2009/02/02/democracy-for-all/#comment-2818</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 00:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the West as we see it has been exporting its ideals and powers onto other countries for centuries though - it&#039;s not a new idea. Think of the Portugeuse in South America, various European nations in Africa (how many countries at some point controlled the Congo?), and most notably, the British Empire. It&#039;s strange that any Commonwealth countries have kept the notion of democracy and built upon it in their own way. It&#039;s verging on the colonial rule and a country extending their empire again though with Afghanistan and Iraq. I don&#039;t like the idea of going into another country and telling them their customs are wrong.

It&#039;s also interesting to think what is lost when a country agrees to &#039;colonial&#039; (for want of a better word) rule: I&#039;m not sure if you&#039;ve read about the Treaty of Waitangi (in 1840), but it involved NZ Maoris agreeing to terms drafted up by the British Empire. The problem was the various terms in English had no equivalent meaning in Maori so they didn&#039;t realise they were signing their land over. Not directly relevant, but I think the historical idea of rule and regime is interesting, and I think that the British Empire created the basis for many of the democracies around the world today.

That&#039;s okay! I like to read your posts. Politics doesn&#039;t normally interest me, but I like your blogs. I can&#039;t say I&#039;ll always have an opinion to put forward though, as some of it is beyond my knowledge. And yes, feel free to ask me about books! Though I don&#039;t know what you like, so suggest some things and I&#039;ll try to think of similar books. I tend to stick with pulp fiction really since university demands fairly heavy reading as it is.

Keep writing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the West as we see it has been exporting its ideals and powers onto other countries for centuries though &#8211; it&#8217;s not a new idea. Think of the Portugeuse in South America, various European nations in Africa (how many countries at some point controlled the Congo?), and most notably, the British Empire. It&#8217;s strange that any Commonwealth countries have kept the notion of democracy and built upon it in their own way. It&#8217;s verging on the colonial rule and a country extending their empire again though with Afghanistan and Iraq. I don&#8217;t like the idea of going into another country and telling them their customs are wrong.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also interesting to think what is lost when a country agrees to &#8216;colonial&#8217; (for want of a better word) rule: I&#8217;m not sure if you&#8217;ve read about the Treaty of Waitangi (in 1840), but it involved NZ Maoris agreeing to terms drafted up by the British Empire. The problem was the various terms in English had no equivalent meaning in Maori so they didn&#8217;t realise they were signing their land over. Not directly relevant, but I think the historical idea of rule and regime is interesting, and I think that the British Empire created the basis for many of the democracies around the world today.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s okay! I like to read your posts. Politics doesn&#8217;t normally interest me, but I like your blogs. I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ll always have an opinion to put forward though, as some of it is beyond my knowledge. And yes, feel free to ask me about books! Though I don&#8217;t know what you like, so suggest some things and I&#8217;ll try to think of similar books. I tend to stick with pulp fiction really since university demands fairly heavy reading as it is.</p>
<p>Keep writing!</p>
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		<title>By: Akhila</title>
		<link>http://akhilak.com/blog/2009/02/02/democracy-for-all/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Akhila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 00:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendan, thanks for always commenting on my blogs :D :D I actually haven&#039;t read any of those books but they sound fascinating, so I&#039;ll have to check them out. Thank you for the awesome suggestions! Since you&#039;re such an avid reader I&#039;ll have to keep getting suggestions from you this year as I&#039;m trying to read more =]

I guess my main point here was that it&#039;s dangerous to simply think about &#039;democracy&#039; as a good thing, because the danger lies when the Western world assumes it is the superior ideology and should be &#039;exported&#039; to the rest of the world....regardless of whether they like it or not. It&#039;s that Western idea of superiority that has created a lot of suffering in the world, and democracy is something people assume is inherently good. My point is that there are dangers with the West automatically asserting its superiority...by forcing democracy on others.

Anyways sorry if I confused you even further..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendan, thanks for always commenting on my blogs <img src='http://akhilak.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://akhilak.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  I actually haven&#8217;t read any of those books but they sound fascinating, so I&#8217;ll have to check them out. Thank you for the awesome suggestions! Since you&#8217;re such an avid reader I&#8217;ll have to keep getting suggestions from you this year as I&#8217;m trying to read more =]</p>
<p>I guess my main point here was that it&#8217;s dangerous to simply think about &#8216;democracy&#8217; as a good thing, because the danger lies when the Western world assumes it is the superior ideology and should be &#8216;exported&#8217; to the rest of the world&#8230;.regardless of whether they like it or not. It&#8217;s that Western idea of superiority that has created a lot of suffering in the world, and democracy is something people assume is inherently good. My point is that there are dangers with the West automatically asserting its superiority&#8230;by forcing democracy on others.</p>
<p>Anyways sorry if I confused you even further..</p>
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		<title>By: Akhila</title>
		<link>http://akhilak.com/blog/2009/02/02/democracy-for-all/#comment-2817</link>
		<dc:creator>Akhila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 00:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendan, thanks for always commenting on my blogs :D :D I actually haven&#039;t read any of those books but they sound fascinating, so I&#039;ll have to check them out. Thank you for the awesome suggestions! Since you&#039;re such an avid reader I&#039;ll have to keep getting suggestions from you this year as I&#039;m trying to read more =]

I guess my main point here was that it&#039;s dangerous to simply think about &#039;democracy&#039; as a good thing, because the danger lies when the Western world assumes it is the superior ideology and should be &#039;exported&#039; to the rest of the world....regardless of whether they like it or not. It&#039;s that Western idea of superiority that has created a lot of suffering in the world, and democracy is something people assume is inherently good. My point is that there are dangers with the West automatically asserting its superiority...by forcing democracy on others.

Anyways sorry if I confused you even further..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendan, thanks for always commenting on my blogs <img src='http://akhilak.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://akhilak.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  I actually haven&#8217;t read any of those books but they sound fascinating, so I&#8217;ll have to check them out. Thank you for the awesome suggestions! Since you&#8217;re such an avid reader I&#8217;ll have to keep getting suggestions from you this year as I&#8217;m trying to read more =]</p>
<p>I guess my main point here was that it&#8217;s dangerous to simply think about &#8216;democracy&#8217; as a good thing, because the danger lies when the Western world assumes it is the superior ideology and should be &#8216;exported&#8217; to the rest of the world&#8230;.regardless of whether they like it or not. It&#8217;s that Western idea of superiority that has created a lot of suffering in the world, and democracy is something people assume is inherently good. My point is that there are dangers with the West automatically asserting its superiority&#8230;by forcing democracy on others.</p>
<p>Anyways sorry if I confused you even further..</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://akhilak.com/blog/2009/02/02/democracy-for-all/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 23:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooh, I made a typo and I can&#039;t change it! There&#039;s a stray &#039;every&#039; in the second line that makes no sense! I think I meant to say &#039;everywhere&#039;. Apologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh, I made a typo and I can&#8217;t change it! There&#8217;s a stray &#8216;every&#8217; in the second line that makes no sense! I think I meant to say &#8216;everywhere&#8217;. Apologies.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://akhilak.com/blog/2009/02/02/democracy-for-all/#comment-2816</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 23:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooh, I made a typo and I can&#039;t change it! There&#039;s a stray &#039;every&#039; in the second line that makes no sense! I think I meant to say &#039;everywhere&#039;. Apologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh, I made a typo and I can&#8217;t change it! There&#8217;s a stray &#8216;every&#8217; in the second line that makes no sense! I think I meant to say &#8216;everywhere&#8217;. Apologies.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://akhilak.com/blog/2009/02/02/democracy-for-all/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 23:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not particularly up with the political implications of various rules, regimes and the like, but your point on democracy not working every reminded me of Barbara Kingsolver&#039;s &#039;Poisonwood Bible&#039; - have you read it? It&#039;s fiction, but written from her experience of living in Africa in the early/ mid-70s (I think, though it may have been earlier) when America was imposing their rule, through African powers, on the country. Part of it focuses on the political background, but there is also the story of her father, the missionary, trying to convert the local people. Perhaps I&#039;m taking religion as a symbol for something similar though? Chinua Achebe&#039;s &#039;Things Fall Apart&#039; is another book on the same theme, if I remember correctly.

I believe there is also a book written by one of your very own lecturers - is it M Madras? - on the problems of state rule in Russia. Again, not quite what you were talking about, but another view of political regime in the &#039;civilised&#039; world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not particularly up with the political implications of various rules, regimes and the like, but your point on democracy not working every reminded me of Barbara Kingsolver&#8217;s &#8216;Poisonwood Bible&#8217; &#8211; have you read it? It&#8217;s fiction, but written from her experience of living in Africa in the early/ mid-70s (I think, though it may have been earlier) when America was imposing their rule, through African powers, on the country. Part of it focuses on the political background, but there is also the story of her father, the missionary, trying to convert the local people. Perhaps I&#8217;m taking religion as a symbol for something similar though? Chinua Achebe&#8217;s &#8216;Things Fall Apart&#8217; is another book on the same theme, if I remember correctly.</p>
<p>I believe there is also a book written by one of your very own lecturers &#8211; is it M Madras? &#8211; on the problems of state rule in Russia. Again, not quite what you were talking about, but another view of political regime in the &#8216;civilised&#8217; world.</p>
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